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Undressed · Mar 23, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

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Originally Posted by Dalmascan Princess

@ Ruby Lightheart:
(Sorry the answer comes late, but it's early morning here and I was asleep until half an hour ago. ^.~)
You say GW2 (if it turns out to be the way you expect it to be after reading the article) has so little to do with GW that you have no reason to buy it. Fine. Your opinion. You won't play it, no one (who doesn't know you) will care, life goes on etc. Okay. The one question I still have is why you post here repeatedly if you just state your opinion over and over again. "Nothing you say will change my mind" you've said, fine, but if you don't want to discuss, not even a tiny little bit, then what are you doing here? Stating one's opinion is great and all, but if that's all you do - why do it over and over again?

@ the "GWEN/playing GW is useless/worthless now" people:
I still don't get it, but I'm still trying to understand you. Yes, I'm a persistent little brat. ^.~ What makes GW less fun now? The fact that you know there will be another game set in the same world were you have the chance to play/must play different characters? Remember, you can still play GW after GW2 comes out. You can even play both! Saying "but GW won't count for anything once GW2 is on" doesn't convince me: Do you really need a fanbase focused on GW to feel that something you do in a game is "worth" something? Do you really only play to be able to think you're special?

@ the "GW is already dying" people:
How come you say that? GW2 won't be "there" until at least 2 years from now. That's longer than GW has been around so far. Are people already dying because they are fifty (and most likely won't live to be 100)?
Talk about the ultimate ragequit...

I know I've already asked some of these questions. But I want anwers, damnit, not more whining.

@ the "GW2 will be a WoW clone/juyt another (bad) MMO because..." people:

... because there will be multible playable races: And that makes it a clone? Oh please. There are hundreds of games with multiple playable races and I doubt it'll damage the quality. If anything, it'll mean more customisation/more possibilities, and are you really going to say that is a bad thing?

... because of the new level cap/grinding: I hate grinding. It's my least favourite part in any game that has it. I'd be seriously disappointed if GW turned out to be that way. IF. I said it before, I'll say it again: We know next to nothing about the new level system. You can whine all you want about the idea, but until (and I doubt it'll happen) for sure that GW2 will be a grindfest, STOP saying it will suck because of this. Seriously.

@ again, the "Anet broke their promise of making a new campain for GW every 6 month" people:
I have an honest question for all of you: If I promised you to give you a candy every month, but then find one that might taste much better, yo I'll give you that one (maybe not every month but every second month), AND also let you keep the old ones (tjat can be eaten as often as you like), would you whine that I broke my promise too and that people should quit "supporting" me in any way?
Because that's basically what your doing. Anet will concentrate in GW2, but you will still be able to play what you have, i.e. GW2. Okay, you might not agree with the GW2 = tastier candy metaphor, but even if you don't like it, assume that lots and lots of people will. Should I stop giving people the "better" candy because you don't like it? Should Anet abandon GW2 for a "lesser" game because some people don't like it?
Besides "a game every six months" was more like a plan than a promise anyway...

Sticky this please for its a very well-thoughtout post.

Etta · Mar 23, 2007, 09:55 AM // 09:55

Hi, for those of you who need more info or havn't read the article from PCG yet. There is a new thread by ChaoticCoyote in riverside that will hopefully clear some unanswer question for some people.

Link:http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10133700

Thank you.

Ninja Spectre · Mar 23, 2007, 10:29 AM // 10:29

I definitely think the new jumping and swimming system will be great, I would like to dodge, arrows and possibly bullets of some sort by jumping and swimming..also to have quests or where you must swim into a cave or something sounds very good I guess that opens up a lot of doors, you could also jump on some kind of puzzle indiana jones style, I hadnt thought of it that way at first, but another night sleeping on it has gotten me thinking. Or you could have everyone in a town jumping up and down like bunnies :d that would be pretty cute. Please would you let us know more about the jumping and swimming and how it will function in GW2 in quests or pvp, thanks Gaile.

good idea no great idea!
/signed

Destinyy · Mar 23, 2007, 10:35 AM // 10:35

I just wanna know 1 thing...

Will the GW1 servers continue to run after the GW2 launch? If so, then who CARES if GW2 sucks, carry on playing GW1...

If GW1 servers are going to be switched off, then tough luck hey... go to GW2 or another MMORPG!!!

I was so uber pissed off when Wing Commander 4 and Mech Warrior 4 wouldn't run on my new PC cos it was too fast, I didn't die a slow death or what not... I moved on to other things...

Games are kinda like life - They'd a jouney, not a destination, enjoy the ride...

And to all those who are saying "whats the point of even carrying on now?" STOP THEN!!! Close your GW account today, or in fact, give it to me... I will enjoy your Chars and Items for you if you want...

Gamers... pfft, worse than woman!!! (generalisation and steriotype here, please don't flame me ladies)

Mr Bingo · Mar 23, 2007, 10:36 AM // 10:36

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Originally Posted by Ninja Spectre

Its funny how the people against most aspects of GW2, are being called the "minority" I read in your post. have you actually read all pages? we are not the minority...what makes you think your the majority have you asked everyone who plays GW1 what they think of this? I think not.. and the "minority" is not "bitching" we are voicing our concerns. If you consider it "bitching" dont read it and ignore it. Some of us dont want to see guild wars go this way, and this makes us the minority just because you want to see it go this way? well thats not fair. Unless youve spoken to everyone in GW2 and heard theyre "bitching" dont call us the minority...we certainly dont call ourselves the majority, and sure we can scream..if thats one way anet will hear us...we will scream. o0 ok someone quote me now from on of my posts

fun fun..go for it macabre.

look mate, if u are against gw2 just dont play it.

The Cantio · Mar 23, 2007, 10:41 AM // 10:41

I agree with Mr Bingo.

Dalmascan Princess · Mar 23, 2007, 10:52 AM // 10:52

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Originally Posted by Destinyy

Will the GW1 servers continue to run after the GW2 launch? If so, then who CARES if GW2 sucks, carry on playing GW1...

Yes please. (It has been confirmed that the GW servers will keep running even after GW2 will be released. Of course we don't know for how long, but even if it would only be, say, two years, that would still mean we can play GW for four more years if we want to - that's twice as long as we''re playing already.) And if you're screaming for new updates, or, basically, for a new anything - move on! There are plenty of games out there, even if it turns out that GW2 just isn't to your liking. (Something we really can't say for sure yet.)

Halius Novadore · Mar 23, 2007, 10:58 AM // 10:58

Wow, when I first heard about Eye of the North and GW2, I was skeptical, even doubtful that Anet would even attempt such a feat. But after reading what is going to happen with GW2, and how GWEN will help bridge GW and GW2, I'm bloody excited.

To all those that think this will ruin the game, think again, if Anet let GW continue along the same course it has been on, people will lose interest very very quickly, making it a very unplayable game. GW2 is the best change to come, as it will offer (dont break my heart Anet) a new environment for us all to play in, not just a new campaign.

Cant wait till 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Avarre · Mar 23, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05

Useless posts removed, continue in that fashion and action will be taken.

kradens · Mar 23, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05

NO MONTHLY FEES!

man. the wait is gonna be the end of me.

There are a lot of people who like GW1 the way it is here. BUT you're forgetting one important thing, there are MORE people out there that would rather buy some other game OVER GW1 for this or that reason.

GW2 is built not only for GW1 players. but for Players who missed the original series for this or that reason.

when Anet say they have listened to what players want. They have not just listened the "majority" of the people who have countlessly quoted their grief on this forum and thread. they have listened to hundreds of other players who play other games. THOSE people are the majority. not you hardcore GW1 players.

and TBH it's really your own fault for being so attached and going hardcore on a game that was aimed at casual players to begin with.

RhanoctJocosa · Mar 23, 2007, 11:10 AM // 11:10

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Originally Posted by Mr Bingo

look mate, if u are against gw2 just dont play it.

Why should they have to stop playing the only actual skill-based game on the market because some scrubs want a cheap WOW? It's hardly fair. People need to realise GW is supposed to be a high-end PvP game. PvE is only there as a little 'side-thing'. It might sound like a cliche by now, but just go play WoW. I'm not trying to FW but seriously, that post just shows nothing.

The Cantio · Mar 23, 2007, 11:19 AM // 11:19

You don't have to stop playing, Guild Wars 1 is still there, and will always be. Mr Bingo's point is that if you disagree with Guild Wars 2, there is no point in complaining about how it differs from Guild Wars 1, just do not purchase the product. You still get the game you liked originally, 'the only skill based game on the market'.

Dalmascan Princess · Mar 23, 2007, 11:25 AM // 11:25

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

Why should they have to stop playing the only actual skill-based game on the market because some scrubs want a cheap WOW? It's hardly fair. People need to realise GW is supposed to be a high-end PvP game. PvE is only there as a little 'side-thing'. It might sound like a cliche by now, but just go play WoW. I'm not trying to FW but seriously, that post just shows nothing.

First, no one said they should just stop playing GW if they don't like GW2, they can still play it all they want. I thing what Mr Bingo was trying to say is "if you don't like GW2, don't play GW2". No mentioning of GW.
Second, when will you people reaise that all the "GW = PvP is all that counts, PvE is only there as a bonus" drivel is nonsense. It doesn't get mysteriously "more right" just because you keep saying it. How often do anet-people have to say they value PvP and PvE equally so that you'll finally understand it?

Torqual · Mar 23, 2007, 11:31 AM // 11:31

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Originally Posted by My Sweet Revenga

Nice summary. No level cap is a welcome change. Although the thought of a single uber high level player kicking the crap out of other lower level players... reminds me of a quote from South Park. "How do you kill someone that has no life?"

LOOOOOL!!!

Let's all go and kill Boars in the woods for 7 weeks!

Everyone should be made to watch this South Park episode - especially the GW development team.

kradens · Mar 23, 2007, 11:39 AM // 11:39

i just want to SEE something.

PLEASE ANET SHOW US SOMETHING :'''''''''''''P

RhanoctJocosa · Mar 23, 2007, 11:39 AM // 11:39

"A key design goal for Guild Wars is "balanced competitive gaming"." - Quoted by Wikipedia, which is quoted by GW.

Please be less ignorant. Just ask yourself, what does 'Guild Wars' mean?

kradens · Mar 23, 2007, 11:44 AM // 11:44

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Originally Posted by Torqual

LOOOOOL!!!

Let's all go and kill Boars in the woods for 7 weeks!

Everyone should be made to watch this South Park episode - especially the GW development team.

: P - southpark ftw!

anyway. im gonna go freeze myself.......this wait...come on....COME ON!!!

Undressed · Mar 23, 2007, 11:48 AM // 11:48

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Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

"A key design goal for Guild Wars is "balanced competitive gaming"." - Quoted by Wikipedia, which is quoted by GW.

Please be less ignorant. Just ask yourself, what does 'Guild Wars' mean?

Developer's opinions and quotes > any wikiquote, quotes from the package/box yadda yadda

You didn't read or notice Gaile's many comments on this subject, yet you call others ignorant?

Dalmascan Princess · Mar 23, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by RhanoctJocosa

"A key design goal for Guild Wars is "balanced competitive gaming"." - Quoted by Wikipedia, which is quoted by GW.

Please be less ignorant. Just ask yourself, what does 'Guild Wars' mean?

Please be less ignorant. Just because "balanced competetive gaming" ia a - I repeat, a, as in "one of many"! - key design of the game doesn't mean there can't be more than one, just like, for example, someone can have more than one motivation for doing something. Guild Wars is just a title describing one of the game's elements. Thex can't very well make a one-page-long title to explain what their game means, can they? But honestly, that's a different topic than the one this thread is apparently supposed to be about - and it's something that has been discussed to death.

Knightsaber Sith · Mar 23, 2007, 11:55 AM // 11:55

I posted my thoughts on character transfer on GWO so I may as well share it with the class here. I know it's been brought in this thread somewhere, but I'm not even going to try and follow the ongoing discussion. This is the situation as I see it for you to take into consideration as you ponder the issue of character transfer. This is not directed at anyone.
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I don't know if someone's already brought up these points, but I'll explain why I see characters as being unable to transfer.

For starters, let us quantify what actually constitutes your character:
(forget weapons/armor/items at the moment, this is about the character itself)

-a)the appearance
-b)the name
-c)titles earned
-d)skills you have
-e)xp earned

-a)Gw2 will have different character models so it would be impossible to simply import your GW1 character's appearance into the new game.
solution: just take us to the character creation screen after we transfer so we can remake our appearance and be GW2 compatible, then the rest will still be like your original character.

-b)Name, in tact - already being transfered.
So far we have altered appearance and same name.

-c)Titles also in tact already.
Now that's: altered appearance,same name, and same titles.

-d)Skills, Gw2 will be using new skills; may not even have the same professions. Not many options here. Maybe just start with the basic skills normal GW2 characters would or let you pick what skills you have equal to the number of skills you used to have.
That's: altered appearance,same name, same titles, modified skills.

-e)Finally we're down to the final item, xp you have earned on your character. You're already getting to keep your name and titles, but you'd have to modify your appearance and skills- all that's left is xp. Do you mean to tell me what this all boils down to is people want to keep the xp they've earned?

The only thing that could possibly be transferred that isn't already, is the xp. It's true that xp will have more significance in GW2 since the cap will be over 20, but do you honestly think xp should transfer for some reason? Do you just want a lead on new players?

To those that do just want the xp, it's a new game. Start from scratch and work your way up, don't be lazy. To those that don't want to transfer just for the xp, but also aren't satisfied with just the name and titles, unfortunately the other reasons just aren't possible as explained above.